Hi all. Haven't posted in a while - primitive genius and I had a baby! (A gorgeous boy) So we've been busy to say the least. Had a wake up call this morning from JWs. Since I faded 5 years ago, this is only the second time JWs have come. At first I wasn't sure if I was going to answer but I did. It was a father and son. The boy was about 7 years old. I asked 'JWs?' The man smiled and said 'Why, yes'. I said, 'I feel very sorry for you and your son.' The smile went away instantly. He said 'What do you mean?' I said, 'My husband was in your religion. His parents and sister shun him because in good conscience, he could not remain a part of your organization.' The JW said 'They shun him?' I said 'Yeah, they haven't spoken to him in 3 years, how unloving and sad is that?' He said, 'It's not unloving.' I said, 'Then what do you call it?' He said, 'Well I can show you in the bible...' I cut him off and said, 'Oh my inlaws have shown me those verses that you all take out of context. JWs, Mormans, Scientologists and other fringe groups are the only ones who interpret those verses to kick out former members, real Christians don't do that. Jesus would never treat people the way your religion does. My father in law is one of your elders and he's too holy to come to our house. The only way he saw his only grandson was because we took the baby to him.' The JW said, 'Well if wrong doing was involved...' I said, 'My husband is a good, moral man, his big crime is no longer believing in your religion. So tell me, when your sweet little boy grows up and decides to think for himself and he tells you he no longer believes your religion is The Truth are you prepared to turn your back on him?' He looked at his son and didn't answer. I asked again. 'Can you shun this boy? Your own flesh and blood because that's what your religion will tell you to do.' He looked at the boy again and said nothing. I said, 'How can you be a part of an organization that tears families apart? Where's the love?' He still said nothing, he just looked at me and fidgeted from foot to foot. I felt myself getting emotional and I was afraid I'd start crying and appear crazy, so I said 'Have a good day, I feel sorry for you and your son and I'll pray for you.' Don't think he liked that at all. So I'm hoping that the next time JWs come to my door, I'll be more prepared. I want to be calm, cool and collected. I wanted to help him and that boy but I didn't know how. Just thought I'd share.
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JWs came to my door
by Victorian sky inthe boy was about 7 years old.
' he looked at his son and didn't answer.
'can you shun this boy?
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY Love Others?
by minimus inthink about it---witnesses proclaim that their identifying mark is love.
they are the "most loving organization in the world".
they personify christ and are the only "true christians".
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JWs want to really love people but they can't. When you are asked over and over again: Who do you love more? Jehovah or your mom? Your husband? Your best friend? How do you reply to that? Years of brainwashing, conditioned responses and massive guilt trips have resulted in cruel and unnatural behavior by otherwise good people. My In Laws are a case in point. They were wondeful people unitl they found out that we were not only inactive but Christians when they found out we go to church that was it. These good, 'loving' people not only shun their only son and me but my father in law hasn't even seen our son and he's nearly a year old. He is welcome to see our child but he won't because we're no longer 'in the truth'. How sick and twisted is that? JWs are the saddest people in the world and many of them don't even know it.
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MY DAD HAD A STROKE
by Mary ini just got a call from my mom.
my father's had a massive stroke and is in the hospital.
i'm leaving now to go to the hospital and i probably won't have time to post here for a while until we know what's happening........
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Mary, I hope and pray your dad will recover soon. All our love, V-Sky
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UPDATE: Semi-Back-in-Business
by RichieRich inover the past couple of weeks, i've learned a lot about myself and those around me.
life might suck, but life moves on.. mom's grip is weakening, prob.
because she's getting tired, or because she's beginning to realize how things are.. not everything i have done is admirable, but its done.
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Hi Richie! Great news on the p.o. box We'll be in touch soon. Love ya, V Sky & Prim G.
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I'm new here.
by The inhey everyone, as the subject might sugest... im new here!
they say first impressions last and i hope i make.
this a good one.. .
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Welcome The! Please keep posting, we're all here for you. I would suggest borrowing as many old publications, especially Russel and Rutherford's masterpieces from the KH library, that will answer your question on what makes a false prophet. I know what you mean about not feeling any closer to Jehovah at the meetings. Been there, done that.Keep praying and God will guide you. There is a lot of hope out of the org. -Unconditional Love, V Sky
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I'm Gonna Be A Grandfather!!!!!
by minimus inmy daughter and her husband told me and her mom last night that she is due december 24th!
it will be our first grandchild.
she'll be 28 and is sooooooo excited!
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M, congrats! Many blessings
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Shunned!!
by RichieRich ini work at target.
back in the good ole' days, witnesses used to come in all the time to see me.
i would say that there were maybe three or four families that came in regularly.. since the announcement was made though, i've had at least 35 diiferent people come in.
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You Go Richie! Very proud of you, keep showing them how happy life is when you are free. Poor things, I feel so sorry for those young people. They're not even allowed to be young and to enjoy their life. You're doing so well Richie, there will be good days and bad but you're strong and when you're not, you have us to lean on. Love ya, V Sky
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an "Adult's" View.
by RichieRich inhere i sit, in my public library, typing away a computer from a hot nasty seat.. but i wouldn't be anywhere else in the world right now.
(okay, maybe a couple of other places).
i have to be at work in 40 minutes, and its a 15 minute drive from here, so lets not expect a novel of a post.. yesterday was my birthday, and they did a little cake thing for me and all that which was nice, but otherwise, nothing is new.. my mother seems to be cooling off, but lets just say that the "excrement flinging fan" hasn't been turned off yet.. i'm 18 now, and nothing is different.
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Richie, Happy Birthday! Glad to hear you're okay. Things maybe rough now but there's always tomorrow and it's full of possibilities. Let us know when you get that p.o. box, we'd love to write you. I agree with what others said, essentially, don't go off the deep end now that you're free, that's what the JWs want so they can say 'See, this is what happens when you leave us.' The best revenge is to live a fantastic, successful life. As one poet says, 'be so good at what you do that people can't take their eyes off you.' Be the best and the dubs will wonder how and why. Love, - V Sky
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My daughter has to call her 'mum'
by katiekitten inim sorry i havent been on the forum for ages.
but like the prodigal son i have a problem now, and i would really appreciate some help and input.. i found out at the beginning of the week, by a slip of the tongue from my daughter, that she has been told by her dad to call his new wife 'mum'.
daughter is 8, and on questioning has said that she feels she might get told off if she doesnt use this term.. i initially phoned her dad to ask if this was true, and he told me she uses the term all the time and 'its none of my business'.
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Katie, (((Hugs)))), I'm so sorry you're going through all this drama. Terrible that your ex is putting your daughter in this position. How dare he. You have every right to be mad. I had a step mother, an absolute witch (I called her by her first name, my dad didn't have a death wish, my mom would've knocked him out if he tried to make me call his new wife anything) Trust me, whether the step is nice or not, your daughter knows exactly who she is and who she is not. Nobody can replace mama. And you sound like a really good one. Just a word of warning, It does sound as if your ex is going to try for sole custody, he may try to get you to lose control emotionally so that he can say, See -she's hysterical, she's an unfit parent, ect. So don't give him the satisfaction of losing your temper with him. Seems, that's what he wants. Is he a JW? Do lawyers do pro bono work in the U.K? If so, get one quick. All the very best, Love V Sky
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My Birthday
by Madame Quixote inapril 21 was my birthday and only one person knew or cared (and it was not my mom or dad).
it was my daughter.
the delights of having a jehovah's witness family do not end.
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Happy Birthday, MQ! And many, many more! Love, V-Sky